the craziest thing is that nobody is actually *nostalgic* for Indie Sleaze because it's a marketing term that lumps certain parts of indie/hipster culture together. it's like reminiscing over a mood board.
Agree that the branding for the "official" Emo Nite (and the smaller ones too) is super annoying and childish. Such a good point about the disparity between the two nostalgia movements: that Indie Sleaze is recognized as being a lost moment in time, whereas the emo kids never had a chance to get the party out of their system.
I've been to a handful of Emo Nights in Seattle and there is often an atmosphere of celebration there that warms my heart, especially coming from the people of color and folks from immigrant families who weren't allowed by their parents to go to shows or even have social media. We couldn't engage with the live music, the communities, or sometimes even the fashion in the early 2000s (because we were children/teens with very little power lol). Or if we could, we had to lie about it or fight for it.
Seeing that alone made me feel Emo Night was worth some of the ridiculous branding and cyclical nostalgia. But now that we're adults, we have the ability and responsibility to support new music and local artists. Folks should not just be going to Emo Nite and then never seeing a live band again.
This post called me fat, side-eyed my outfit, shoved a Parliament light in my mouth, handed me a Black Label and asked me what I think about Lady Sovereign. A+, no notes.
The past has been used as a weapon against the present in music culture for nearly 35 years now, and some of the ground the present lost, we'll never get back.
I've been seeing a lot of discourse online about the prevalence of the boxes of aesthetic that are eating away at personal style and creativity, more especially with the TikTok algorithm and circulation of trends. I've heard about how it's affected the music community (SoCal screamo in particular) but got so depressed by the report I heard of people's egos taking over that I didn't look any further into it. People tend to remember the good things and the bad/questionable things fade away and all that's left, as Ethan commented, is a mood board.
Goth must’ve been before Emo - or maybe regional? My area has Goth nights. But, they pretty much include music from the 80s on up. Back in the mid-late 80s, we were called Punk or new wave, until a regional name “corn chips” surfaced. We used to go to a teenage dance club - supposedly the name started because someone said our dancing looked like we were smashing cornchips or something ridiculous like that, but the name stuck, and we have cornchip reunions here lol
the craziest thing is that nobody is actually *nostalgic* for Indie Sleaze because it's a marketing term that lumps certain parts of indie/hipster culture together. it's like reminiscing over a mood board.
This was really great, thank you!
Agree that the branding for the "official" Emo Nite (and the smaller ones too) is super annoying and childish. Such a good point about the disparity between the two nostalgia movements: that Indie Sleaze is recognized as being a lost moment in time, whereas the emo kids never had a chance to get the party out of their system.
I've been to a handful of Emo Nights in Seattle and there is often an atmosphere of celebration there that warms my heart, especially coming from the people of color and folks from immigrant families who weren't allowed by their parents to go to shows or even have social media. We couldn't engage with the live music, the communities, or sometimes even the fashion in the early 2000s (because we were children/teens with very little power lol). Or if we could, we had to lie about it or fight for it.
Seeing that alone made me feel Emo Night was worth some of the ridiculous branding and cyclical nostalgia. But now that we're adults, we have the ability and responsibility to support new music and local artists. Folks should not just be going to Emo Nite and then never seeing a live band again.
Anyways thank you! :)
This post called me fat, side-eyed my outfit, shoved a Parliament light in my mouth, handed me a Black Label and asked me what I think about Lady Sovereign. A+, no notes.
No stalgia is good stalgia.
The past has been used as a weapon against the present in music culture for nearly 35 years now, and some of the ground the present lost, we'll never get back.
I've been seeing a lot of discourse online about the prevalence of the boxes of aesthetic that are eating away at personal style and creativity, more especially with the TikTok algorithm and circulation of trends. I've heard about how it's affected the music community (SoCal screamo in particular) but got so depressed by the report I heard of people's egos taking over that I didn't look any further into it. People tend to remember the good things and the bad/questionable things fade away and all that's left, as Ethan commented, is a mood board.
Goth must’ve been before Emo - or maybe regional? My area has Goth nights. But, they pretty much include music from the 80s on up. Back in the mid-late 80s, we were called Punk or new wave, until a regional name “corn chips” surfaced. We used to go to a teenage dance club - supposedly the name started because someone said our dancing looked like we were smashing cornchips or something ridiculous like that, but the name stuck, and we have cornchip reunions here lol
Between this and the Pablo Torre Finds Out episode around DFW’s The String Theory, it’s a huge week for footnotes
Right on the nose, yet again! 🙂↕️
whole thing is on point, but footnotes FTW. Maybe a missing 'my' in the first one, tho?
Pretty spot on...but people were fucking and being sleazy in every scene. The late 90's punk scene was super young, dumb and full of cum.